A lot of people know it since long time. But who dares to question faith and God!!! It is not about lying it is all about giving people some good vibes. In my opinion this thing will not have any effect on the devotees. Y does TV9 do such things to play with people's faith and feelings is the big question!! Kill such Media should be the policy!!
We should be devotional but that should not become crazy or mad. God is everywhere if u really belive him.I feel bad for the 104 people were killed in stampede and i pity their kids and families..
That lady says we can see the star from anywhere...then y do people go for star gazing to different places.....It is the angle and particular position of the star which is visible from certain places only.....stupid TV9....just want to create hype.....
Do you have any answer for the TV9. Yes media should give such publicity so that we people dont have to give up our lives. Not necessary everybody has to go on that day itself. they can anyday in those days. I am a devotee of ayyappa. but I am really sorry for the families..
Try to promote some non profit organizations or pending projects that are stopped waiting for govt funds. So ppl will come forward to help either to donate money or time which is useful for the society.
We are lacking good leaders.Show and talk about what is a good leader means, so at least 1% of viewers will realize what our nation needs.
Talk about small businesses, invite govt officials who have fair knowledge to motivate ppl.
Invite experience farmers,invite successful business men. Stock market.
TV9, Pls focus and get some good analysts.
When will TV9 realize that ppl are expecting some useful material??!!
There is no use in bashing TV9 cause' the stories they cover whether we like it or not are giving them revenue. It's the gossips and stuff that people like so if one doesn't like TV9, they can switch the channel.
As for the story....it's not bad that they showed this. Like a few people said above, devotion is devotion. Once the truth is layed out, people can choose to believe what they want. Will ayappa devotees suddenly loose faith cause of the light? No! if one does, then their faith was just interest towards possible magic tricks that they belive god might do.
i am very confident that such disclosers wont effect out faith.
tv9/all most all channels are stupid and it gives hype for useless points.
when they get inf they blackmail the convicted person, if channel gets cashGifts, immediately the news relay will be stopped, we saw lots of such things and one of them is KG basin movement. it was for getting APs rightful share of gas. please think why did it stopped. its all they started when they want and its stopped when they want. its all about few bness people.
wtf??TV9?? Y cant you mind ur own business? everyone has their own faith..what is the problem with that? The anchor feels like she had discovered some thing big...wtf...
pls tell me that I am not the only one who hates the background score in all the TV9 reports. It's like a death score all the time....gaaahhhh, I hate it.
I am not talking about donation of money or running some non profit org. if u say that tv9 is crap pls go and give life to the people who are dead if u say it is scrap go and announce that it is false. Guru swamy himself accepted the fact that it is not makara jyothi. I am a devotee of ayyappa. i honestly believe him. But to build hype for their temple they are cheating and taking life of so many innocent people. By providing money to non profit org or something else doesnot give life to the death.Think like a human??? Believe in god but dont become mad and talk bull shit.Its not tv9 or any other media for that matter should take this out seriously.. Wake up humans..god is within us.. If u can seee. close ur eyes u can see god not necessary god is only in the temples.Why for that matter i go to tirupathi regularly there is so much fraud in the temple.. where is the money going.its cr's of rupees. Ask them to donate it to poor people instead of me or u running non profit org.Where are those crores going..pujaris itself are eating lots..what is the god doing. Is he protecting his money..u or me need not run non profit org. if the govt utilises the money in a proper manner no body needs to run any org.One more thing i wanted to say is that only people from AP.are going to shabarimala. We can on any day not necessary only to see that jyothi we have to go.
escuse me. Somebody says let tv9 talk about corruption and criminal cases..etc.. WHAT SHE TALKS ABOUT HERE IS EXACTLY THE SAME. THE TEMPLE IS CORRUPTED AND THE TEMPLE HAS TAKEN THE LIVES OF 104 PEOPLE IS THE CRIME. EXACTLY SHE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS.Guru swamy himself has accepted.. open ur eyes and watch again and again i am not anything about god. i am talking about guruswamys in the temple.they are just creating hype and attracting lots of devotees. creating hype for the temple
who has taken responsibility of 104 deaths, this is one of the biggest killings in india.playing with 104 lives is not good. all r innocent people who died. i pray for them and their families. this killings should be recorded in documents as other incidents and accidents where mass deaths happened. and govt should take care in future and take action on who is responsible behind false promotion. it should not be taken as granted that no one is responsible. definately someone is responsible. what happnd to india, mumbai attacks, Lalita Park building collapse, common wealth games , sabarmala. plz stopall these, fedup of these kind of news.
wel done 10:06. and 4:27 plz read the history again, u r very poor it seems. it doesnt mean that what u type is true r fact. nothing to do with religion here. there is a matter of lives, its humanity. when people were dying no religion saved them, its all humanity why we all r praying for 104 deaths. be educated professionals, not like auto drivers.
nobody is talking about religion or caste or etc.,I am talking about human-ism..not hinduism. yes everybody believes god and everyone goes to temple.Even I go to temple. But here the question is they are going to see the fire which is lit by the humans and that is not god created. Go to ayyappan temple.. pray and come back. why should they create all such stuff which is not existing.yes not only tv9 every channel has to educate the people.but whoever is talking nonsense about the media pls go the next year to sabarimala and enjoy the stampede.
@6:28 and a few others pathetic souls here are questioning the very roots of India by taking advantage of an unfortunate incident. Please know that official apathy and administrative lethargy is what caused this accident. Any damn fool can make a crass remark, but it takes immense courage and faith to understand the facts. There is huge difference between makara jyothi and makara vilakku. Everybody in kerala knows that it is man made, but that has got nothing to do with devotion to Ayyappa. Whether man made or not our love for him will not diminish. As to the loss of 104 lives, nothing can compensate the loss caused to the families of the victims. But to question the beliefs of those who lost their lives in this accident, is like Hyenas waiting to scavenge the dead. Are you such an animal?
I am not sure what is meant by 'their God'. I never thought your god is different from mine. If you think he is different, then he is biased and is no God, for he let this happen just because the devotees were not praying him.
These untoward incidents occur everywhere in every religion. It has got nothing to do with the concerned belief system because these are incidents caused by Human error. Check these links and tell me why couldnt your God stop these things from happening. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_during_the_Hajj
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Devotion is different than accident. when an incident occurs in a crowded place stampede is common weather the crowd belongs to religious facilities or regular places. here in this case revealing the truth won't reduce the crowd next year but hope the govt can take preventive steps such that these type of incidents will not repeat. last thing about this interview is i have seen this yanker's interview few months ago for a different situation. she did not improve a bit since then. hope tv 9 give some kind of training to these type of yankers on how to conduct interviews.
Again tv9 creating unwanted nuicence, according to me indian culture is intact because of faith on god. But why people need to create issues on that. In india many people and politicians doing many bad things, if these guys have dare or guts try to get those issues out. Instead of creating this nuicence try to do some programs useful for society...
Govt. is again corrupted like u all humans.Why will govt take preventive steps when u can prevent it at ur door step. Go in the normal time visit the temple and come back and are people mad to go the man made maga jyothi.
'Their' God means the belief that they have in him. Its neither about any religion nor about your God or somebody else's God. The question is- What was he doing when they were so earnestly trying to reach him with so much trust. I don't buy the crap like past life karma, god testing them etc.
Religious rifts are caused by misinterpreters like you. You talked about one God and preached tolerance. You proved that all tolerance is intolerance in disguise by quoting the example of Hajj.
I would greatly wonder if you'd ever understand this. However as a respite I say belief and non-belief are the same in any which way.
P.S- Assuming my identity with some religion was so kiddish by the way quoting Hajj example.
@6:27/6:28 Trust me when i say this - nothing u said above made sense to me:). I quoted Hajj and the other one to instill some sense into you. If my understanding is correct, u r someone who is suffering from identity crisis and who does not have the courage to accept the stupidity in ur previous comments. There is no point in telling u again and again that either Ayyappa in Shabarimala or Allah in Mecca or the other God in the other link have got anything to do for these unfortunate happenings.
@7:38 I completely trust you when you said it made no sense to you! I am not surprised. Identity crisis? Identity is itself an illusion. No point in talking about crisis anyway. I bet you wont understand this statement either. Good luck!
Y does TV9 do such things to play with people's faith and feelings is the big question. What do they get with such news? A bigtime fucking asshole Tv news channel.
But I don't understand why you are after me when all I asked was why don't we question the belief system itself which emerged from the pseudo value system? In this case why all those people blindly believed in some thing which costed their own lives? I feel that only when we understand why their is belief at all we can then understand God and may be avoid these kind of unnecessary mishaps/terrorism, etc.
Why should I believe that there is somebody outside the door just because my grand mother said so?!
This is not questioning somebody's belief system. But why there is belief at all? My believing or not believing in something makes my identity. But when I try and understand why there is belief at all may be I would know that my identity is also only a belief. Then what is the point of believing in something and doing strange things when identity itself is just a belief? Then everything gets nullified. Then there just is. some may call it Brahman or atma or God or nature. whatever. BUT unfortunately I feel there is no escape out because whatever I said has also stemmed from the same belief or no-belief system. And ofcourse you were right that I spoke from my ego. My ego= my Identity = My belief. It is just a belief, an imagination. And yes I am egoistic! I am not mocking at anybody here, even TV9. But I am sad that we have been deluded all our lives! And we continue to be.
Its because TV9 is stupid channel, you cannot say this is stupid news. Temple is making false publicity and playing with people's beliefs and moreover not looking after safety of the devotees, only making money.
All the families who lost should file a case against whoever created this false belief.
I am not against god and my uncle himself is a guruswamy who went to sabarimala for 18 times.
6:28 PM nee yenkamma. 104 people chanipothe kaamedy na be. ala ayithe thondara chachi nuvvu pora devudi daggariki.
6:52 PM mind dobbinda.. 100 years kritham acharalu ippudu nuvvu patistunnava?
4:27 PM mundu temple daggara jarigina daaniki samadhanam cheppavoi. It is stupid that we can ignore the lives of 104 people just because of the fact that there are other issues.
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A lot of people know it since long time. But who dares to question faith and God!!! It is not about lying it is all about giving people some good vibes. In my opinion this thing will not have any effect on the devotees. Y does TV9 do such things to play with people's faith and feelings is the big question!! Kill such Media should be the policy!!
We should be devotional but that should not become crazy or mad. God is everywhere if u really belive him.I feel bad for the 104 people were killed in stampede and i pity their kids and families..
That lady says we can see the star from anywhere...then y do people go for star gazing to different places.....It is the angle and particular position of the star which is visible from certain places only.....stupid TV9....just want to create hype.....
I agree with 8:22pm...thts very true...
Do you have any answer for the TV9. Yes media should give such publicity so that we people dont have to give up our lives. Not necessary everybody has to go on that day itself. they can anyday in those days. I am a devotee of ayyappa. but I am really sorry for the families..
Thanks a lot for proving this. I am feeling very sad about the 104 people death. Everything until proved is miracle.
TV9 is crap! Instead of crap.
pls see if you can get us some thing like below..
Try to promote some non profit organizations or pending projects that are stopped waiting for govt funds. So ppl will come forward to help either to donate money or time which is useful for the society.
We are lacking good leaders.Show and talk about what is a good leader means, so at least 1% of viewers will realize what our nation needs.
Talk about small businesses, invite govt officials who have fair knowledge to motivate ppl.
Invite experience farmers,invite successful business men. Stock market.
TV9, Pls focus and get some good analysts.
When will TV9 realize that ppl are expecting some useful material??!!
There is no use in bashing TV9 cause' the stories they cover whether we like it or not are giving them revenue. It's the gossips and stuff that people like so if one doesn't like TV9, they can switch the channel.
As for the story....it's not bad that they showed this. Like a few people said above, devotion is devotion. Once the truth is layed out, people can choose to believe what they want. Will ayappa devotees suddenly loose faith cause of the light? No! if one does, then their faith was just interest towards possible magic tricks that they belive god might do.
i am very confident that such disclosers wont effect out faith.
tv9/all most all channels are stupid and it gives hype for useless points.
when they get inf they blackmail the convicted person, if channel gets cashGifts, immediately the news relay will be stopped, we saw lots of such things and one of them is KG basin movement. it was for getting APs rightful share of gas. please think why did it stopped. its all they started when they want and its stopped when they want. its all about few bness people.
our faith is not just faith,,,,,, its faith/culture/tradation/familyValues/patriotism/humanity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1000's of yrs history is the proof.
Its Vasudaika kutumbam
wtf??TV9??
Y cant you mind ur own business? everyone has their own faith..what is the problem with that?
The anchor feels like she had discovered some thing big...wtf...
TV9 ki dammu vunte corruption gurinchi, politicians properties gurinchi, valla meeda vunna criminal cases gurinchi programs telecast cheyyali
pls tell me that I am not the only one who hates the background score in all the TV9 reports. It's like a death score all the time....gaaahhhh, I hate it.
I am not talking about donation of money or running some non profit org. if u say that tv9 is crap pls go and give life to the people who are dead if u say it is scrap go and announce that it is false. Guru swamy himself accepted the fact that it is not makara jyothi. I am a devotee of ayyappa. i honestly believe him. But to build hype for their temple they are cheating and taking life of so many innocent people. By providing money to non profit org or something else doesnot give life to the death.Think like a human??? Believe in god but dont become mad and talk bull shit.Its not tv9 or any other media for that matter should take this out seriously.. Wake up humans..god is within us.. If u can seee. close ur eyes u can see god not necessary god is only in the temples.Why for that matter i go to tirupathi regularly there is so much fraud in the temple.. where is the money going.its cr's of rupees. Ask them to donate it to poor people instead of me or u running non profit org.Where are those crores going..pujaris itself are eating lots..what is the god doing. Is he protecting his money..u or me need not run non profit org. if the govt utilises the money in a proper manner no body needs to run any org.One more thing i wanted to say is that only people from AP.are going to shabarimala. We can on any day not necessary only to see that jyothi we have to go.
escuse me. Somebody says let tv9 talk about corruption and criminal cases..etc.. WHAT SHE TALKS ABOUT HERE IS EXACTLY THE SAME. THE TEMPLE IS CORRUPTED AND THE TEMPLE HAS TAKEN THE LIVES OF 104 PEOPLE IS THE CRIME. EXACTLY SHE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS.Guru swamy himself has accepted.. open ur eyes and watch again and again i am not anything about god. i am talking about guruswamys in the temple.they are just creating hype and attracting lots of devotees. creating hype for the temple
10.06 yes every body comes if it happens in a temple....
what about the ram mandir in ayodhya?????
or how many other religion shrines doing illegal stuff..any body dares to raise their voice against other religions????
ammoo ...valla joliki poru...hindu religion ante challuu.....vimarshinchadaniki...addamaina vaadu ready..
enno years nunchi vunna matham ..lifestyle...vimrsincharoo...puttagathulundavu..
who has taken responsibility of 104 deaths, this is one of the biggest killings in india.playing with 104 lives is not good. all r innocent people who died. i pray for them and their families. this killings should be recorded in documents as other incidents and accidents where mass deaths happened. and govt should take care in future and take action on who is responsible behind false promotion. it should not be taken as granted that no one is responsible. definately someone is responsible.
what happnd to india, mumbai attacks, Lalita Park building collapse, common wealth games , sabarmala. plz stopall these, fedup of these kind of news.
wel done 10:06.
and 4:27 plz read the history again, u r very poor it seems. it doesnt mean that what u type is true r fact. nothing to do with religion here. there is a matter of lives, its humanity. when people were dying no religion saved them, its all humanity why we all r praying for 104 deaths. be educated professionals, not like auto drivers.
nobody is talking about religion or caste or etc.,I am talking about human-ism..not hinduism. yes everybody believes god and everyone goes to temple.Even I go to temple. But here the question is they are going to see the fire which is lit by the humans and that is not god created. Go to ayyappan temple.. pray and come back. why should they create all such stuff which is not existing.yes not only tv9 every channel has to educate the people.but whoever is talking nonsense about the media pls go the next year to sabarimala and enjoy the stampede.
I don't know what God was doing when those 104 people were dying in the stampede. They actually went to see 'their' God. Haven't they?
enno years nunchi vunna matham ..lifestyle...vimrsincharoo...puttagathulundavu..
well said by someone
@6:28 and a few others pathetic souls here are questioning the very roots of India by taking advantage of an unfortunate incident. Please know that official apathy and administrative lethargy is what caused this accident. Any damn fool can make a crass remark, but it takes immense courage and faith to understand the facts. There is huge difference between makara jyothi and makara vilakku. Everybody in kerala knows that it is man made, but that has got nothing to do with devotion to Ayyappa. Whether man made or not our love for him will not diminish. As to the loss of 104 lives, nothing can compensate the loss caused to the families of the victims. But to question the beliefs of those who lost their lives in this accident, is like Hyenas waiting to scavenge the dead. Are you such an animal?
I am not sure what is meant by 'their God'. I never thought your god is different from mine. If you think he is different, then he is biased and is no God, for he let this happen just because the devotees were not praying him.
These untoward incidents occur everywhere in every religion. It has got nothing to do with the concerned belief system because these are incidents caused by Human error. Check these links and tell me why couldnt your God stop these things from happening.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_during_the_Hajj
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Tiruchirapalli/article417853.ece
@7:46PM
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Devotion is different than accident. when an incident occurs in a crowded place stampede is common weather the crowd belongs to religious facilities or regular places. here in this case revealing the truth won't reduce the crowd next year but hope the govt can take preventive steps such that these type of incidents will not repeat. last thing about this interview is i have seen this yanker's interview few months ago for a different situation. she did not improve a bit since then. hope tv 9 give some kind of training to these type of yankers on how to conduct interviews.
Again tv9 creating unwanted nuicence, according to me indian culture is intact because of faith on god. But why people need to create issues on that. In india many people and politicians doing many bad things, if these guys have dare or guts try to get those issues out. Instead of creating this nuicence try to do some programs useful for society...
Govt. is again corrupted like u all humans.Why will govt take preventive steps when u can prevent it at ur door step. Go in the normal time visit the temple and come back and are people mad to go the man made maga jyothi.
@gopi
Well said.
The links are a fitting reply to these fools.
@7:46
'Their' God means the belief that they have in him. Its neither about any religion nor about your God or somebody else's God. The question is- What was he doing when they were so earnestly trying to reach him with so much trust. I don't buy the crap like past life karma, god testing them etc.
Religious rifts are caused by misinterpreters like you. You talked about one God and preached tolerance. You proved that all tolerance is intolerance in disguise by quoting the example of Hajj.
I would greatly wonder if you'd ever understand this. However as a respite I say belief and non-belief are the same in any which way.
P.S- Assuming my identity with some religion was so kiddish by the way quoting Hajj example.
@6:27/6:28
Trust me when i say this - nothing u said above made sense to me:). I quoted Hajj and the other one to instill some sense into you. If my understanding is correct, u r someone who is suffering from identity crisis and who does not have the courage to accept the stupidity in ur previous comments. There is no point in telling u again and again that either Ayyappa in Shabarimala or Allah in Mecca or the other God in the other link have got anything to do for these unfortunate happenings.
@7:38 I completely trust you when you said it made no sense to you! I am not surprised. Identity crisis? Identity is itself an illusion. No point in talking about crisis anyway. I bet you wont understand this statement either. Good luck!
@9:46
Assalu nuvvu emi matladuthunnavo neekayina ardhamavuthunda? Identity oka illusionaa...ayithey nee ego enduku hurt ayindi. Atanu cheppinadaantlo tappu emi undi. Evarini kincha paracha ledu. Nuvvu cheppinadi tappu annaadu. Nijamga nuvvu annadi correct kaadu. Nee telivi takkuva statement lo tappu oppukuney dammu neeku ledu...
Y does TV9 do such things to play with people's faith and feelings is the big question. What do they get with such news? A bigtime fucking asshole Tv news channel.
@8:43PM Assalu neeku yemi artham kaaledani mathram naaku arthamindi.
Avunu nee laanti athi thelevivallani yedurkuney dammu naaku avasaram ledu. thanks.
But I don't understand why you are after me when all I asked was why don't we question the belief system itself which emerged from the pseudo value system? In this case why all those people blindly believed in some thing which costed their own lives?
I feel that only when we understand why their is belief at all we can then understand God and may be avoid these kind of unnecessary mishaps/terrorism, etc.
Why should I believe that there is somebody outside the door just because my grand mother said so?!
This is not questioning somebody's belief system. But why there is belief at all? My believing or not believing in something makes my identity. But when I try and understand why there is belief at all may be I would know that my identity is also only a belief. Then what is the point of believing in something and doing strange things when identity itself is just a belief? Then everything gets nullified. Then there just is. some may call it Brahman or atma or God or nature. whatever. BUT unfortunately I feel there is no escape out because whatever I said has also stemmed from the same belief or no-belief system. And ofcourse you were right that I spoke from my ego. My ego= my Identity = My belief. It is just a belief, an imagination. And yes I am egoistic! I am not mocking at anybody here, even TV9. But I am sad that we have been deluded all our lives! And we continue to be.
well done 10:06, 5:35 PM
Its because TV9 is stupid channel, you cannot say this is stupid news.
Temple is making false publicity and playing with people's beliefs and moreover not looking after safety of the devotees, only making money.
All the families who lost should file a case against whoever created this false belief.
I am not against god and my uncle himself is a guruswamy who went to sabarimala for 18 times.
6:28 PM nee yenkamma. 104 people chanipothe kaamedy na be. ala ayithe thondara chachi nuvvu pora devudi daggariki.
6:52 PM mind dobbinda.. 100 years kritham acharalu ippudu nuvvu patistunnava?
4:27 PM mundu temple daggara jarigina daaniki samadhanam cheppavoi. It is stupid that we can ignore the lives of 104 people just because of the fact that there are other issues.
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